I've noticed that this page is not as alive as the battle wiki, I was wondering what happened and how I can transfer information to other wikis.

What level of durability do you need to survive a exploding castle

I changed the intelligence and stamina.

I was on a Mega Man high and I found some neat things that I think are worth noting for scaling.

Power Gear Buff

The Power Gear buff should be a 4x amp, just like the Speed Gear, which is pretty consistent.

The two gears were designed identically and meant to work in tandem with eachother, as well as providing the exact same strain to Mega Man when he uses either one. Wily also considered himself to be unstoppable with the system despite knowing about things like Mega Man's charge shot, which is already a 3x amp to his normal attacks (And despite having created a charge shot of his own with the same effects when he made Bass).

Duo's Feat Revised

The second part of this potential upgrade is the feat performed by Duo and Saturn during their clash. This was calced and accepted as Large Planet Level on vs battles wiki through this; however, while mathematically sound, the calculation does leave out the two's distance from Saturn at the time of their clash. I have performed the extra steps required to find their distance and the resulting surface area (Calc here), and their true power results at 1.39 Tenatons, or Dwarf Star Level, which would also make characters using things like the Power Gear (And its 4x amp, as determined by the speed gear calc) 5.56 Tenatons, or Dwarf Star Level+.

I know this site has a small planet level calc instead, but it uses an outdated version from NarutoForums, and the VSBW calc is more current. If you still want to keep the small planet level calc for whatever reason, the revisions still apply and would make them Large Planet Level.

Ceratanium

This will be the most controversial part of the revision, I'm sure. However, I believe a legitimate argument can be made for directly downscaling the classic-era series from the X era due to one single component: Ceratanium.

For those of you not in the know, Ceratanium is an element created originally by Doctor Light to make Mega Man from, and later taken by Doctor Wily to use for things like Metal Man's blades. Its place in the timeline, while seemingly throwaway at best, is actually incredibly important due to its appearance in later series.

Ceratanium is completely absent in the X games, but it makes a reappearance in Mega Man Zero 4, as a component for body chips. Most notably, Ceratanium is the only part to not drop from enemies, and must instead be found in small pieces across the world. It shows up more prominently in the ZX era in multiple examples.

• A piece of it is found encased in rock in ZX and is used to build an extender chip that increases the length of invincibility after taking damage. A rather curious place to find it given that it isn't a naturally-occurring substance, indicating that it's a remnant of the Classic or Zero era buried there.

• A "Legendary Pickaxe" made of Ceratanium can be found in ZX Advent.

• Ceratanium Walls exist within ZX Advent, and are completely unbreakable save for the strength of Model F.

What should be noted across all of this is that it's still considered incredibly tough and useful despite being created in the Classic Era. The one possible counter to be levied against this is that it's possible that Ceratanium's durability changed as technology progressed; However, the ZX and Zero examples use old pieces of Ceratanium during time periods when the metal wasn't being manufactured, yet they were still considered to be extremely tough despite all this.

Given that, I find it fair to scale the Classic era to, at bare minimum, the ZX-era characters, which should be weaker than the X era anyway.

The scaling chain should thus be something like this:

• ZX Characters (are the lowest on the scaling chain; They use Biometals, which are only a portion of their original forms, and struggle to break Ceratanium walls without higher-end powers like those of Model F, whose original body, Fafnir, was known for his physical strength.Vent and Aile defeated a much weaker version of Omega than the one Zero defeated, as he didn't have the Dark Elf. The feat is also dubiously canon due to being a bonus boss not referenced anywhere else that is only accessible through porting save data from a different game entirely, so an argument can be made for the scaling not being legitimate. (Edit: I've been informed by Spider-Pidge that Omega's biometal is referenced by an NPC and can be accessed without the connection. So the feat's likely canon, but the scaling doesn't change much.)

• Classic Era characters should be comparable or slightly superior to ZX Era characters due to a more common usage of Ceratanium, including beings that are entirely made of it like Hard Man or Mega Man.

• Next are X-Era characters. These are our baseline for scaling directly to Lumine's Solar System Level Feat, and X and Zero are both meant to be superior to Mega Man and bass respectively. Notably, no Ceratanium is found in this series.

• Zero Era characters are above this and stand as the strongest; Zero from this game defeated Copy X and noted him to be weaker than the original, and later defeated Omega (who was inhabiting Zero's original body, mind you) while he was being amplified by the Dark Elf. Zero notably uses Ceratanium in Mega Man 4 to enhance his armor, referencing its usefulness once more.

• Comparable or Superior to this are X-Era characters during the Elf Wars, but those events happened offscreen and we have no pages or profiles for them.

With the above in place, we can gain a pretty good estimate of the Classic era's power, and their tiers should go to something like "At least Planet Level, possibly Solar System Level" (And it's not like the series was getting stronger at this point anyway, considering that the next series chronologically speaking is only Tier 6 as humans and robots became less indistinguishable).

I should note that this ONLY Scales to AP and Durability. Classic era characters still retain their current speed ratings, and do not scale to the X series in that respect.

So yeah those are all things

Both are at City Level

Both are bloodlusted

Dingodile's Racing Game items are restricted

Battle takes place in a forest

Dingodile:

Lubbock:

Draw/Inconclusive:

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Fiddlesticks vs SCP-049

Standard equipment for both, Extended Canon 049. In-character. Fiddlesticks gets his crows and 049 receives 3 instances of 049-2.

This is something that's been discussed and accepted before, So i'll go ahead and repost all the scans and evidence.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/e/eb/DoctorStrangeEvidence3.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170207130826 - The Living Tribunal sheds some light on the dimensional nature of the Marvel Universe. The universes in man's cluster contain anywhere from 2.73 to 6.29 dimensions. Obviously, he's referring to Spatial dimensions here, and even makes the distinction between dimensions and universes. To add further legitimacy to this, he states mankind's view of these dimensions as inherently "incomplete".

However, among the universes which have a greater number than man's cluster are Nightmare's dimension of dreams, Tiboro's Sixth dimension, and... The Dark Dimension. Dormammu, as we know, supports the existence of the Dark Dimension, merged universes into it, and threatened to destroy it in a rage.

Furthermore, Dormammu originates from Faltine, a place with an even greater number of dimensions than the Dark Dimension. Adding more to this, Nightmare has merged the Dream Dimension with ours before, and is capable of even putting Eternity to sleep.

Keeping all this in mind, Skyfather tiers should be listed as High Dimensional Level (At least 6.29 Dimensional, likely Higher), and Immeasurable (Beings originating from a higher plane of existence beyond normal space-time are all at this level for obvious reasons). This would affect:

-Doctor Strange

-Immortal Hulk

-Odin

-Odinforce Thor, Rune King Thor

-Sated Galactus